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Topic: Rileys One Day Series


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furrybeast
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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 11:17

Due to the generous sponsorship I have agreed with Rileys, Event One on the 3rd April will have the following MINIMUM GUARANTEED prize fund.

Winner - ?350
Runner up - ?200
Semis - ?125 x 2
Quarters - ?50 x 4


Total MINIMUM payout at event 1 - REGARDLESS of entry level is ?1000 :-o

Not bad for one day bashing balls around! :D

Please remember this event is handicapped into 4 categories, so ANYONE playing well could win this.

All remaining 6 events will have ?2.50 PER PLAYER added to the prize fund, and feature reverse seeding to give the less talented player an even bigger chance of glory!

Full event details on home page article, and event dates on calendar.

This truly is one NOT to be missed!




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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 17:53

Impressive coin total George! Not wanting to rain on the parade or anything but will this go ahead if the turnout is low? Or indeed, will the other events have the same prize money if the first event is not well attended?

Also, should the big vote go your way, will the tourney be open to/advertised to players from outwith the deen?



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:23

Even if 8 players turn up - payout will be as advertised.

Remaining events will also be paid out as advertised.

Events will be World Rules until such time as affiliation is paid. In my mind that will not be until the start of the new winter season in Sep at the earliest.



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:37

Thats good all round then.

I think this looks like a great format. I'll certainly be at the first event. :-)



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:38

One down, 7 to go :-P



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:42

You not playing like?



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:45

Ian daniel v Simon Donald in the final



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:51

Is that a prediction? or have you veered off course slightly!



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springHeeledJim
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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:53

Again, same problem as the 5man team event - an individual has agread sponsorships, and is not representing a national body, and is totally un-licensed - therefore can give NO guarantees whatsoever.

     If this event fails, it could prevent further sponsorship being attained by bona-fide organisations; it could damage the reputation of the game, and could alienate the player base.

     If substantial sponsorship is handled well by a national organisation, it can be to the benefit of ALL players, not just the 8 winners.

     Event's such as this clutter up the calander, and take away from what national bodies are trying to achieve, and ultimately, KILL the game.

     My opinion is that 8 people should enter this event, win the money, and hopefully there won't be another one.

     Only 8ball events sanctioned by national bodies should be attracting sponsorships, and the national bodies should do everything in their power to oppose events such as this.



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:55

It has MY guarantee, and that is better than ANY organisation. Now piss of to your own thread



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 19:59

!!! QUOTE !!!

Event's such as this clutter up the calander, and take away from what national bodies are trying to achieve, and ultimately, KILL the game.


Extraordinarily harsh, even for you Jim.

This series of events was concocted at a time when there were EXTREMELY SERIOUS events afoot, concerning the SEPF. I think that it is great the George has arranged a series that will cater for ADPL players of all levels. Obviously, the sponsors think so too...

If this format works and the SEPF continue to recover then I see no reason why they cannot compete for the same sponsorship in the future...



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 20:10

Correct Adam, there was sweet FA on the calendar when this series was first advertised.



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springHeeledJim
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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 20:12

Furry - if you want to run tournaments, join a committee and run them under the auspices of the organisation you join.

     Adam, it's a basic point of principal i'm afraid.

     Maveric tournament directors going around agreeing sponsorships and running tournaments are not answerable to anyone - and it kills the game.

    It has happened in the past.
    There are not enough sponsors interested in 8ball pool at the minute as it is, and every one should be expressing their interest and developing their links with 8ball pool through national bodies, and national bodies alone.

     The SPA and SEPF should publicly condemn this event, and not sanction the use of their playing rules for the event, in any advertising etc.

    That is partly why the SPA and SEPF affilliate to international bodies, to license the rights to the playing rules for that season - exclusively in their territories.

     The serious events which you allude to Adam have been fully discussed, exposed, analysed and are resolved to the extent that there are now plenty of nationally sanctioned events.



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 20:33

!!! QUOTE !!!

The SPA and SEPF should publicly condemn this event, and not sanction the use of their playing rules for the event, in any advertising etc.


Choice policy - SHJ style!

!!! QUOTE !!!

The serious events which you allude to Adam have been fully discussed, exposed, analysed and are resolved to the extent that there are now plenty of nationally sanctioned events.


There are several events, yes. However, the format George has set up has, to an extent, been ridiculed by SEPF committee members. Therefore, it seems only right that George, or anyone for that matter, should have the right to pursue sponsorship for a competition of this format if they so desire. My post above refers to this. If the format does not work then both George + the sponsors feel bad. If it works George + the sponsors feel good, then the SEPF can reassess their position on the format and 'move in' on it next season or whenever...



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 20:40

George had planned this event well before Derek and the SEPF had anything lined up in Aberdeen. And as your down in London and have nothing to do with the running of Aberdeen pool i don't see how it affects you in the slightest. This event will be brill, esp with the reverse seeding as it means even our mate Scotty Potter has a chance lol!!!

And as for the killing of the game... I'm not even going to answer as its just a nonsense statement.



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 21:20

And as your down in London and have nothing to do with the running of Aberdeen pool i don't see how it affects you in the slightest.

Well said Mr Proud!!!!!!!!



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springHeeledJim
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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-13 21:35

There are many issues involved with this Scott, it's irrelevent who makes the points, or where someone lives, it's an open forum.

    But i still have a house in Aberdeenshire, and am up enough, and may well soon be involved again with 8ball in the area, so can have an interest in those terms, if i so choose.

     It does indeed potentially kill the game...many scenarios can show this...here's one:

     Who is the sponsor (irrelevant for the actual event, but to argue the point in principle)? Does the money come from a sponsorship budget which would be used to benefit pool in the area otherwise, through national/local recognised 8ball organisations? Money which will not/may not now reach those players.

     8 players from Dunfermline or Glasgow could enter this event, and leave town with all the prizemoney. How would that benefit Aberdeen?

     So no benefit to the local pool playing community whatsoever, potentially.

     The 'promotor' doesn't even need to advertise/promote the event well...just secure the sponsorship cash, and invite a few of his mates. So open to abuse.

     And of course, no-one for the 'pronoter' to answer to, other than a disgruntled sponsor, who may think again about sponsoring pool comps.

     You can see, surely, why only national bodies should be entrusted with large sponsorships, and why otherwise the potential to kill sponsorship, and therfore kill well attended, bona-fide, nationally recognised events exists.



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-14 05:05

Of course the other ironic thing is Furry, that you were adamant on another thread about people having 'conflicts of interest'...

     As an 'individual promoter' representing no-one, you have gone out to secure sponsorship and organise a tournament.

    Yet in your capacity as an ADPL committee member (whichever one of the several commttee positions, you choose...) you are tasked with organising sponsorship for them.

     Strange that both sponsorships are from the same source. Conflict of interest?

     I would've thought that immediately after the SEPF AGM, and in light of their statement of intent to carry on, the appropriate thing to do would've been to offer this initial 'Aberdeen One-Day Series' event to them to run, along with the sponsorship.

    Thus thereby ending your conflict of interest, and having satisfied the needs of the players in Aberdeen for a tournament, it having been diarised for sometime.

     Although i don't know why you simply didn't organise the event on behalf of the ADPL in the first place!

     Is conflict of interest ok for Furry but not others?



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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-14 06:33

On 2010-03-13 19:51 , furrybeast Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

Is that a prediction? or have you veered off course slightly!

whoopsi :) had a shandy or twa :)




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posticon   Posted: 2010-03-14 06:38

what time is this event starting?



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